国际收藏家协会
10月25日,2009

在2009年里士满管道展上,18l新利官网国际Charatan Collectors Society(ICCS)仅为会员举办了一次私人会议,并邀请www.democker.com参加。.

如果你不知道夏拉坦管道,他们实际上有一个有趣而独特的故事。ICCS创始人,鲍勃斯旺森邀请我们参加,这是他告诉我们的。

The ICCS is the International Charatan Collectors Society.We started the society in 2006 in Chicago,它实际上是我自己创立的——这是我的想法,my baby.它试图把来自世界各地的夏拉坦收藏家们聚集在一起,因为我们看起来是如此的分裂,想知道所有的收藏家和陶器管都在哪里。所以,我们在最初的会议上聚在一起-正如我说的,this was in Chicago.It was Charatan heaven for the Charatan collectors there.The first meeting had 33 people in it.管道真是太棒了,难以置信。桌子都盖好了。我们看到了陶器收藏家们正垂涎欲滴的管道。俱乐部最初有28名特许会员,其中5名来自英格兰,目前已发展到38名。

最初我们开始的时候有很多争议,因为我们想把俱乐部留给那些拥有者。We wanted people who were collectors and already into Charatans.所以我们有了一个规则,我们开始了,叫做“五管规则”。

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为了进去,你必须有5根管子.它在烟斗世界和烟斗中引起了很多争议,在这方面有利弊。先生。负责芝加哥演出的Burla对此并不满意,18l新利官网but I didn't back down and we ended up doing it and it became something the Chicago Club and Frank Burla himself finally thought it was a great thing.它让它保持了一点……我不知道,in my words maybe pure.所以,that's how the International Charatan Collectors Society started.

皮耶斯杂志所以,一开始,来自芝加哥俱乐部的弗兰克布拉不同意五管规则?

Bob:五管规则,是啊。

皮耶斯杂志: But now he's embraced it?

Bob他真的很欣然接受了,你知道弗兰克非常投入和支持。I don't want to say he wasn't supportive.He was very supportive it was just the Five Pipe Rule.事实上,整个芝加哥俱乐部都很喜欢这个想法,它产生并激励了更多的俱乐部。And a Dunhill Club was started.Trying to think what we called it.最初它就像一个,you know a seminar as something to further Charatans and all of a sudden Dunhill wanted to do it and Camoy wanted to do it.

So it really got a lot of activity and brought a lot of people into the Chicago 18l新利官网show.你知道他们喜欢发生的事情,这对我们大家都很好,而且我们已经确定了很多租船会员,and you know a lot of names that everybody knows that belong;包括弗雷德·汉娜和里奇·埃瑟曼。Most of the meetings we have judgings and we get a lot of people that enter pipes and we give out awards for the top Charatans and so forth.


皮耶斯杂志他们是如何判断的?

Bob: They are judged by an independent panel,通常有三到四名法官和你认识的业内知名人士。And for example,the first year we had Bobby Eichorn who isn't here tonight,但鲍比可能是世界上最大的收藏家。我的意思是他有很好的性格——你能想到的一切,他们都是一流的。And you know Marty … I,我想马蒂曾经是个法官。I know Fred Hannah was.I know Rich Esserman was,and they just,我们四处走走,以最优秀的选手为评判标准,然后我们还获得了总收藏奖。

皮耶斯杂志:给我简单介绍一下一般的角色,对于没有经验的人.

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Bob多年来,查拉坦和登喜路一直是主要的竞争对手,我是个老人,好吧。.查拉坦不是商人经营的。They were pipe makers.And they didn't run the business like Dunhill did.Dunhill were businessmen.登喜路跑,and still to this day makes frazing machine pipes.你知道他们不是真正的手工制作的管道;they're frazing machines which is just a copy machine if you don't know what that means.charatan总是制造免费的手动管道。所以,the big difference is Charatan has pipes that are free hand and made with the grain.They look for grain.Where Dunhill looked to make a,一个标准的形状-我不是在贬低登喜路。我只是说他们做了一个标准的形状,他们用污渍盖住了谷物,而谷物的意义不大。它可能被炸毁了或是别的什么,但夏拉坦一直以其谷物闻名。战争持续了20-30年。

对角色影响最大的人是赫尔曼·莱恩。,谁开始Lane Limitedout of Atlanta.He bought the rights to distributorship of Charatan in America.所以,one of the biggest distinctions in Charatans in America versus Europe is that when you see a Lane Limited stamp - which is a pound L in a circle - a lot of people don't know what that means,but that means that it was a pipe that was made by Charatan in England and distributed to Herman Lane and Herman Lane put his Lane stamp on it.

有一个小巷时代,这是一件很重要的事情.If it doesn't have a Lane stamp on it,可能是欧洲制造的,a Charatan European made and European distributed Charatan.可以。And this takes you back to the inability of Charatan to really be a good business manager with it.这并不一定总是意味着,因为有时charatan忘记在车道上印上限制标志等等。与之相比,很难确定谁是谁,很容易确定谁是谁,因为dunhills上总是有日期戳和序列号,你可以通过这些数字来确定谁不是这样的人。所以你必须真正知道你在和一个骗子约会时在做什么。

皮耶斯杂志: How long have Charatans been around?

Bob:从40年代起就有很多人。

皮耶斯杂志他们现在还在生产吗?

Bob没有。查拉坦在80年代初开始经商.

登喜路获胜。当dunhill买下它们的时候,他们带走了所有仍然存在的人,并把他们全部带走。They stamped them all out and sold them for whatever they could get for them.所以,你说的是一个可能以50美元的高价卖出的烟斗。

皮耶斯杂志: Wow.

Bob: And,但这一切都被登喜路压印了。

皮耶斯杂志什么时候,当你说“踩踏”什么…?

Bob: All the stamping on the pipe - you know the Charatan make and all this stuff.

皮耶斯杂志: They got kind of obliterated.

Bob: Obliterated,是啊。They were I mean evil people.我不是说dunhill,I mean both of them.They were just vicious foes you know.They just hated each other.你知道有,我的意思是我可以一直这样下去,但我的意思是这基本上就是发生的…

查拉坦的名声是他们是英国最古老的制管工人。所以,他们说他们回去了。我想是,1863,但别让我这么做。But basically in America we're talking like I said in the 1940s.赫尔曼·莱恩在1955年买下了查拉坦的权利。And there's a lot of questions on that.我有一本他写的关于自己的书,那就是1955年他买的。所以,that's,这是个很难的数字。

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Pipesmagazine.com感谢Bob Swanson邀请我们参加2009年里士满管道展的国际收藏家协会会议,18l新利官网and for telling us the fascinating and interesting story of Charatan Pipes.